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	<title>Comments on: Travel apps on iPhone will soar as a result of Orange move</title>
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		<title>By: how to get a free iphone</title>
		<link>http://www.tnooz.com/2009/09/28/mobile/travel-apps-on-iphone-will-soar-as-a-result-of-orange-move/comment-page-1/#comment-101</link>
		<dc:creator>how to get a free iphone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:52:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>very interesting and informative, i will link ya in a tweet</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>very interesting and informative, i will link ya in a tweet</p>
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		<title>By: free iphone 3g s</title>
		<link>http://www.tnooz.com/2009/09/28/mobile/travel-apps-on-iphone-will-soar-as-a-result-of-orange-move/comment-page-1/#comment-100</link>
		<dc:creator>free iphone 3g s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:45:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was actually looking around for a forum post on this issue, but stumbled across your site on Google!! I&#039;m actually quite interested so will keep an eye out for updates :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was actually looking around for a forum post on this issue, but stumbled across your site on Google!! I&#8217;m actually quite interested so will keep an eye out for updates <img src='http://www.tnooz.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: free iphone 3gs</title>
		<link>http://www.tnooz.com/2009/09/28/mobile/travel-apps-on-iphone-will-soar-as-a-result-of-orange-move/comment-page-1/#comment-99</link>
		<dc:creator>free iphone 3gs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:19:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jsut want to let you know I found this really interesting :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jsut want to let you know I found this really interesting <img src='http://www.tnooz.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Okay, so 3G mobile services are officially A Big Deal now in the UK &#124; Tnooz</title>
		<link>http://www.tnooz.com/2009/09/28/mobile/travel-apps-on-iphone-will-soar-as-a-result-of-orange-move/comment-page-1/#comment-97</link>
		<dc:creator>Okay, so 3G mobile services are officially A Big Deal now in the UK &#124; Tnooz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:56:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] on the heels of the announcement yesterday from network provider Orange that it would be selling Apple iPhone handsets to customers later this [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] on the heels of the announcement yesterday from network provider Orange that it would be selling Apple iPhone handsets to customers later this [...]</p>
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		<title>By: jimbobthomas</title>
		<link>http://www.tnooz.com/2009/09/28/mobile/travel-apps-on-iphone-will-soar-as-a-result-of-orange-move/comment-page-1/#comment-79</link>
		<dc:creator>jimbobthomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 21:00:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Kevin May - I&#039;ll try and answer that with an example...The R&amp;A released a combined iPhone app. &amp; Twitter feed in Jan. of 2009 which combined to give me concise update on the qualifying stages of the tournament along with exclusive pictures taken by the on course reporter which offered me the option of delving deeper into the behind the scenes stories and logistics of what went into setting up the tournament or to simply have a sneak preview of how the course was developing?

It doesn&#039;t have to win awards or make Apple designers blush, it could be as simple as a live departure/arrival feed or as complex as a destination based planner but all of it would not serve as a distraction from the website but to enrich the experience?

The question the consumer asks is, &#039;Do I really have to pay for this?&#039;..?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Kevin May &#8211; I&#8217;ll try and answer that with an example&#8230;The R&amp;A released a combined iPhone app. &amp; Twitter feed in Jan. of 2009 which combined to give me concise update on the qualifying stages of the tournament along with exclusive pictures taken by the on course reporter which offered me the option of delving deeper into the behind the scenes stories and logistics of what went into setting up the tournament or to simply have a sneak preview of how the course was developing?</p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t have to win awards or make Apple designers blush, it could be as simple as a live departure/arrival feed or as complex as a destination based planner but all of it would not serve as a distraction from the website but to enrich the experience?</p>
<p>The question the consumer asks is, &#8216;Do I really have to pay for this?&#8217;..?</p>
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		<title>By: how to get a free iphone</title>
		<link>http://www.tnooz.com/2009/09/28/mobile/travel-apps-on-iphone-will-soar-as-a-result-of-orange-move/comment-page-1/#comment-72</link>
		<dc:creator>how to get a free iphone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 18:52:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had been informed about this from a friend (who pointed me here) so thanks for making it available.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had been informed about this from a friend (who pointed me here) so thanks for making it available.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin May</title>
		<link>http://www.tnooz.com/2009/09/28/mobile/travel-apps-on-iphone-will-soar-as-a-result-of-orange-move/comment-page-1/#comment-64</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin May</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 15:38:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@jimbobthomas - but would BA shareholders rather have the tech team driving traffic (via a better UE) to the website and more bookings than getting plaudits (and an award here or there) for its iPhone app?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@jimbobthomas &#8211; but would BA shareholders rather have the tech team driving traffic (via a better UE) to the website and more bookings than getting plaudits (and an award here or there) for its iPhone app?</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin May</title>
		<link>http://www.tnooz.com/2009/09/28/mobile/travel-apps-on-iphone-will-soar-as-a-result-of-orange-move/comment-page-1/#comment-63</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin May</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 15:37:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@liftsurfer - what is holding Android back?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@liftsurfer &#8211; what is holding Android back?</p>
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		<title>By: Jimbobthomas</title>
		<link>http://www.tnooz.com/2009/09/28/mobile/travel-apps-on-iphone-will-soar-as-a-result-of-orange-move/comment-page-1/#comment-60</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimbobthomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 13:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am yet again left depressingly un-surprised by the news that the &#039;major&#039; travel brands are waiting for the open source community to prove the business case for the next generation of travel apps. whilst at the same time inhibiting their usefulness by restricting access to their data?  Have LocalPicks by Tripadvisor and AroundMe taught you nothing?  Two simple rules; keep it user driven and keep it free, the rest will take care of itself..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am yet again left depressingly un-surprised by the news that the &#8216;major&#8217; travel brands are waiting for the open source community to prove the business case for the next generation of travel apps. whilst at the same time inhibiting their usefulness by restricting access to their data?  Have LocalPicks by Tripadvisor and AroundMe taught you nothing?  Two simple rules; keep it user driven and keep it free, the rest will take care of itself..</p>
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		<title>By: LiftSurfer</title>
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		<dc:creator>LiftSurfer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 13:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m hoping Google Android would hurry up and get their shit together.  Apple and their arcane approval policies are hurting real innovation.  I like building independent apps/web sites but I dont dare bother doing so for the iphone, as rejection by the apple overlords is the likely result.  Thats my 2c rant... :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m hoping Google Android would hurry up and get their shit together.  Apple and their arcane approval policies are hurting real innovation.  I like building independent apps/web sites but I dont dare bother doing so for the iphone, as rejection by the apple overlords is the likely result.  Thats my 2c rant&#8230; <img src='http://www.tnooz.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: DonaldS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DonaldS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 12:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think there&#039;s quite a lot going on here. Just writing out my hat:

1. Part of the problem is that most of the supposedly content-rich travel apps aren&#039;t very good. Once you&#039;ve bought one &quot;guide&quot; that&#039;s no more than a WikiTravel scrape with basic location-sensitivity laid over it, you won&#039;t make that mistake again. Have a thorough play with some of the apps launched by traditional big players, too, and you&#039;ll find some horrible efforts (despite the fact that they, more than anyone, have access to superb content).

2. Perhaps, too, that the app format is just better suited to simpler stuff (&quot;basic information services&quot;, as you call them)? Yelp, Qype, etc. all ride consistently high in the charts because they do one job (relatively) well. Ditto public transport apps.

3. Perhaps it shouldn&#039;t be so surprising that in a new field like this, it *isn&#039;t* the big players we should look to to innovate well. Among the paid apps, the top &quot;guide-style&quot; (above all the &quot;recognized&quot; brands) isn&#039;t Lonely Planet, but &quot;Instant New York&quot;: see www.instantcities.com. It may not be a brand we know well... yet. [Disclosure: I have 2 apps forthcoming with them, so I won&#039;t wax about them too much here...]

Of course, the arrival of Orange (and the growth of Android) will grow the app market. But better products would be even more beneficial.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there&#8217;s quite a lot going on here. Just writing out my hat:</p>
<p>1. Part of the problem is that most of the supposedly content-rich travel apps aren&#8217;t very good. Once you&#8217;ve bought one &#8220;guide&#8221; that&#8217;s no more than a WikiTravel scrape with basic location-sensitivity laid over it, you won&#8217;t make that mistake again. Have a thorough play with some of the apps launched by traditional big players, too, and you&#8217;ll find some horrible efforts (despite the fact that they, more than anyone, have access to superb content).</p>
<p>2. Perhaps, too, that the app format is just better suited to simpler stuff (&#8221;basic information services&#8221;, as you call them)? Yelp, Qype, etc. all ride consistently high in the charts because they do one job (relatively) well. Ditto public transport apps.</p>
<p>3. Perhaps it shouldn&#8217;t be so surprising that in a new field like this, it *isn&#8217;t* the big players we should look to to innovate well. Among the paid apps, the top &#8220;guide-style&#8221; (above all the &#8220;recognized&#8221; brands) isn&#8217;t Lonely Planet, but &#8220;Instant New York&#8221;: see <a href="http://www.instantcities.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.instantcities.com</a>. It may not be a brand we know well&#8230; yet. [Disclosure: I have 2 apps forthcoming with them, so I won't wax about them too much here...]</p>
<p>Of course, the arrival of Orange (and the growth of Android) will grow the app market. But better products would be even more beneficial.</p>
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