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		<title>By: Tweets that mention Dopplr sale illustrates Cloud Super PNR opportunity &#124; Tnooz -- Topsy.com</title>
		<link>http://www.tnooz.com/2009/09/28/news/dopplr-sale-illustrates-cloud-super-pnr-opportunity/#comment-393641</link>
		<dc:creator>Tweets that mention Dopplr sale illustrates Cloud Super PNR opportunity &#124; Tnooz -- Topsy.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Jan 2011 00:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Alex Bainbridge, Ole Bo Larsen. Ole Bo Larsen said: A super PNR - interesting article frm. 2009, but has it moved? http://bit.ly/3jD062 [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Alex Bainbridge, Ole Bo Larsen. Ole Bo Larsen said: A super PNR &#8211; interesting article frm. 2009, but has it moved? <a href="http://bit.ly/3jD062" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/3jD062</a> [...]</p>
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		<title>By: TripIt sells to Concur for $82M cash and stock &#124; Tnooz</title>
		<link>http://www.tnooz.com/2009/09/28/news/dopplr-sale-illustrates-cloud-super-pnr-opportunity/#comment-386181</link>
		<dc:creator>TripIt sells to Concur for $82M cash and stock &#124; Tnooz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jan 2011 13:18:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] But the big prize for companies like TripIt, Traxo and TripCase is to build a ubuiquitious itinerary that is held separately to the booking service - an opportunity outlined in an article in September 2009. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] But the big prize for companies like TripIt, Traxo and TripCase is to build a ubuiquitious itinerary that is held separately to the booking service - an opportunity outlined in an article in September 2009. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Nokia parks Dopplr travel network in neutral &#124; Tnooz</title>
		<link>http://www.tnooz.com/2009/09/28/news/dopplr-sale-illustrates-cloud-super-pnr-opportunity/#comment-106031</link>
		<dc:creator>Nokia parks Dopplr travel network in neutral &#124; Tnooz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Sep 2010 10:26:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] perhaps there is still a chance that the concept of the social atlas (and how it might relate to travel) which Dopplr preached on plenty of occasions will be taken on by Nokia, at least in terms [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] perhaps there is still a chance that the concept of the social atlas (and how it might relate to travel) which Dopplr preached on plenty of occasions will be taken on by Nokia, at least in terms [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Will Nokia pull the Dopplr app from the iPhone? &#124; Tnooz</title>
		<link>http://www.tnooz.com/2009/09/28/news/dopplr-sale-illustrates-cloud-super-pnr-opportunity/#comment-1081</link>
		<dc:creator>Will Nokia pull the Dopplr app from the iPhone? &#124; Tnooz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 16:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The UK-based firm could find itself in the middle of this most messy of bunfights given that it is now owned by Nokia. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Adrian</title>
		<link>http://www.tnooz.com/2009/09/28/news/dopplr-sale-illustrates-cloud-super-pnr-opportunity/#comment-244</link>
		<dc:creator>Adrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 12:53:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting. It sounds like a (bigger) question I was trying to answer today about who, in this digital age, SHOULD own which pieces of my personal information and how I, as an enduser, can control for what purpose that is used. 

The way I see it, the problem isn&#039;t unique for travel records:
I run Google Maps (and have Latitude enabled) on my mobile phone. My location is thus shared with all my other (approved) Google contacts. 
However, there is no way for me to share that information with my Facebook account or my Twitter account unless I run additional, other tools. 

It applies to my GPS Location (Google Latitude), my latest thoughts (Twitter), my friends (Facebook), my pictures (Flickr), my restaurant reviews (ZAGAT), a list of my books (in Amazon) and a list of my favorite movies (in IMDB), etc. 

The solution here is what you refer to as a &quot;bucket&quot;. I would need a digital bucket in which I put my &quot;stuff&quot;: GPS information, recent pictures, my travel itinerary, etc.

Ofcourse, like OpenID, it would be up to me to decide where to &quot;park&quot; my bucket and who I give access to it. 
Applications and companies can request access (to read or write) under conditions (approved my be). 

I&#039;m probably overreaching here, but  I&#039;m trying to make the point that it&#039;s not only the travel industry that needs such a solution.

And: I think it&#039;s a pipedream that any big company would pick this up voluntarily any time soon, since the &#039;lock in&#039; is (in my examples) what allows them to make the tools/services/sites in the first place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting. It sounds like a (bigger) question I was trying to answer today about who, in this digital age, SHOULD own which pieces of my personal information and how I, as an enduser, can control for what purpose that is used. </p>
<p>The way I see it, the problem isn&#8217;t unique for travel records:<br />
I run Google Maps (and have Latitude enabled) on my mobile phone. My location is thus shared with all my other (approved) Google contacts.<br />
However, there is no way for me to share that information with my Facebook account or my Twitter account unless I run additional, other tools. </p>
<p>It applies to my GPS Location (Google Latitude), my latest thoughts (Twitter), my friends (Facebook), my pictures (Flickr), my restaurant reviews (ZAGAT), a list of my books (in Amazon) and a list of my favorite movies (in IMDB), etc. </p>
<p>The solution here is what you refer to as a &#8220;bucket&#8221;. I would need a digital bucket in which I put my &#8220;stuff&#8221;: GPS information, recent pictures, my travel itinerary, etc.</p>
<p>Ofcourse, like OpenID, it would be up to me to decide where to &#8220;park&#8221; my bucket and who I give access to it.<br />
Applications and companies can request access (to read or write) under conditions (approved my be). </p>
<p>I&#8217;m probably overreaching here, but  I&#8217;m trying to make the point that it&#8217;s not only the travel industry that needs such a solution.</p>
<p>And: I think it&#8217;s a pipedream that any big company would pick this up voluntarily any time soon, since the &#8216;lock in&#8217; is (in my examples) what allows them to make the tools/services/sites in the first place.</p>
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		<title>By: Twitted by kathydragon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Twitted by kathydragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 08:57:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Kayak sets sights on TripIt-Dopplr clan with its own trip planner &#124; Tnooz</title>
		<link>http://www.tnooz.com/2009/09/28/news/dopplr-sale-illustrates-cloud-super-pnr-opportunity/#comment-159</link>
		<dc:creator>Kayak sets sights on TripIt-Dopplr clan with its own trip planner &#124; Tnooz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 16:44:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] undoubtedly has an unwelcome surprise for TripIt, Dopplr, Traxo and Sabre’s TripCase, among other [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Alex Bainbridge</title>
		<link>http://www.tnooz.com/2009/09/28/news/dopplr-sale-illustrates-cloud-super-pnr-opportunity/#comment-85</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Bainbridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 22:14:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Graham
That is a very interesting question and one I am wholly ill-equipped to answer (neither having an MBA nor a degree in tourism studies!)

I am just a techie with a vision! [Spells danger that!]

But that is like asking a shopping trolley/basket if it vegetarian. A shopping basket surely doesn&#039;t care what is in it - it is just a container designed for convenience to shop with.

Think of this Cloud super PNR idea as a bucket that data can be put into, can be peeked into, and data removed from. It would be down to the individual what  travel services they wish to give permission to access their PNR - hence it would reflect the real world mindset of the traveller.

Andres
I like the look of your site but it isn&#039;t quite the same idea (having taken a quick look). But maybe you could do it (but you would have to take a much more of a platform strategy than a site one.... looks like you are going the site one initially?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Graham<br />
That is a very interesting question and one I am wholly ill-equipped to answer (neither having an MBA nor a degree in tourism studies!)</p>
<p>I am just a techie with a vision! [Spells danger that!]</p>
<p>But that is like asking a shopping trolley/basket if it vegetarian. A shopping basket surely doesn&#8217;t care what is in it &#8211; it is just a container designed for convenience to shop with.</p>
<p>Think of this Cloud super PNR idea as a bucket that data can be put into, can be peeked into, and data removed from. It would be down to the individual what  travel services they wish to give permission to access their PNR &#8211; hence it would reflect the real world mindset of the traveller.</p>
<p>Andres<br />
I like the look of your site but it isn&#8217;t quite the same idea (having taken a quick look). But maybe you could do it (but you would have to take a much more of a platform strategy than a site one&#8230;. looks like you are going the site one initially?</p>
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		<title>By: Graham Robertson</title>
		<link>http://www.tnooz.com/2009/09/28/news/dopplr-sale-illustrates-cloud-super-pnr-opportunity/#comment-84</link>
		<dc:creator>Graham Robertson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 21:48:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have some questions... I know this is all speculative, but how would the system determine if the passenger is allocentric or psychocentric? would this just be based on patterns and algorithms? You would also have to overcome the fear of sharing that seems to be industry standard which could be a bit of a challenge. I do think it would be a step in the right direction, would get rid of a lot of speculation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have some questions&#8230; I know this is all speculative, but how would the system determine if the passenger is allocentric or psychocentric? would this just be based on patterns and algorithms? You would also have to overcome the fear of sharing that seems to be industry standard which could be a bit of a challenge. I do think it would be a step in the right direction, would get rid of a lot of speculation.</p>
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		<title>By: Andres</title>
		<link>http://www.tnooz.com/2009/09/28/news/dopplr-sale-illustrates-cloud-super-pnr-opportunity/#comment-80</link>
		<dc:creator>Andres</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 21:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alex,  Your concept of the &#039;Cloud Super PNR&#039; is exactly what we are building with Traxo (www.traxo.com), although we&#039;ve been using several other names to describe the service (and associated benefits).  

Traxo currently auto-detects, validates (traveler name match), unlocks, normalizes, de-dups, centralizes, sequences, and intelligently re-assembles (it back into logical ‘trips’) confirmed travel reservation information from over 40 travel sources.  Since direct-connects / APIs / web-services don&#039;t yet exist for reservation information we&#039;ve employed the same approach that Mint.com and Yodlee have uses to aggregate financial information.  And, as you can imagine, with centralization comes added responsibility, so we&#039;ve spent an incredible amount of time building the appropriate security / privacy / sharing tools directly into our base system.

We just launched our public beta last month.  Please take a look at the site.  I would love to compare notes and visions for how this service unfolds.  Let&#039;s plan to chat later this / next week?  

Regards, 
Andres 
(Traxo Co-founder)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex,  Your concept of the &#8216;Cloud Super PNR&#8217; is exactly what we are building with Traxo (www.traxo.com), although we&#8217;ve been using several other names to describe the service (and associated benefits).  </p>
<p>Traxo currently auto-detects, validates (traveler name match), unlocks, normalizes, de-dups, centralizes, sequences, and intelligently re-assembles (it back into logical ‘trips’) confirmed travel reservation information from over 40 travel sources.  Since direct-connects / APIs / web-services don&#8217;t yet exist for reservation information we&#8217;ve employed the same approach that Mint.com and Yodlee have uses to aggregate financial information.  And, as you can imagine, with centralization comes added responsibility, so we&#8217;ve spent an incredible amount of time building the appropriate security / privacy / sharing tools directly into our base system.</p>
<p>We just launched our public beta last month.  Please take a look at the site.  I would love to compare notes and visions for how this service unfolds.  Let&#8217;s plan to chat later this / next week?  </p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Andres<br />
(Traxo Co-founder)</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Bainbridge</title>
		<link>http://www.tnooz.com/2009/09/28/news/dopplr-sale-illustrates-cloud-super-pnr-opportunity/#comment-77</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Bainbridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 20:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Bob

Yes - thats it! [I worried that no one understood what I was getting at]

Would also enable new entrant entrepreneurs to do transactional services (or provide services that interact with a transaction).

That would set off a whole new wave of innovation (currently new entrant entrepreneurs tend to go for social or inspiration / product review type sites - but this would give them something else to innovate with)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Bob</p>
<p>Yes &#8211; thats it! [I worried that no one understood what I was getting at]</p>
<p>Would also enable new entrant entrepreneurs to do transactional services (or provide services that interact with a transaction).</p>
<p>That would set off a whole new wave of innovation (currently new entrant entrepreneurs tend to go for social or inspiration / product review type sites &#8211; but this would give them something else to innovate with)</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Offutt</title>
		<link>http://www.tnooz.com/2009/09/28/news/dopplr-sale-illustrates-cloud-super-pnr-opportunity/#comment-76</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Offutt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 20:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Imagine a SuperPNR capability that functioned much like SalesForce: SaaS, with core capability but meeting the unique needs of many.  An open Super PNR service would reduce overall industry costs and provide a foundation for new products and services, not to mention better service to the customer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Imagine a SuperPNR capability that functioned much like SalesForce: SaaS, with core capability but meeting the unique needs of many.  An open Super PNR service would reduce overall industry costs and provide a foundation for new products and services, not to mention better service to the customer.</p>
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		<title>By: Twitted by uptake</title>
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		<dc:creator>Twitted by uptake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 18:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Head</title>
		<link>http://www.tnooz.com/2009/09/28/news/dopplr-sale-illustrates-cloud-super-pnr-opportunity/#comment-66</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Head</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 16:36:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this idea is fascinating too... I&#039;d disagree slightly with you Alex... &quot;The network, collectively, becomes more useful the more people join. This is true of most social networks.&quot; I see what you mean - you need a critical mass for it to become really useful - ie have breadth of coverage (eg Trip Advisor suddenly got REALLY useful when it hit the 5 million review mark or whatever) but for something like Dopplr which has a quite tightly defined niche (Frequent Business Travellers) you don&#039;t want say students or mums with kids getting into the mix here as their interests/choices would be radically at odds with those of the rest of the network</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this idea is fascinating too&#8230; I&#8217;d disagree slightly with you Alex&#8230; &#8220;The network, collectively, becomes more useful the more people join. This is true of most social networks.&#8221; I see what you mean &#8211; you need a critical mass for it to become really useful &#8211; ie have breadth of coverage (eg Trip Advisor suddenly got REALLY useful when it hit the 5 million review mark or whatever) but for something like Dopplr which has a quite tightly defined niche (Frequent Business Travellers) you don&#8217;t want say students or mums with kids getting into the mix here as their interests/choices would be radically at odds with those of the rest of the network</p>
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		<title>By: Twitted by kevinlukemay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Twitted by kevinlukemay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 13:35:15 +0000</pubDate>
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