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	<title>Comments on: Time Out creates eBooks for city guides, takes the Murdoch paid-for route</title>
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		<title>By: The Week in Travel Tech - December 6 to 12 2009 &#124; Tnooz</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Week in Travel Tech - December 6 to 12 2009 &#124; Tnooz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 15:38:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Time Out creates eBooks for city guides, takes the Murdoch paid-for route [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Brian Hayashi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Hayashi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 22:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeremy - 

At Outside Magazine, there would be writers that would have special deals that governed how their stuff could be used. These deals would later came to haunt the publication when it started working with Seattle-based Starwave on its first online initiative. Once you run into a situation like that it makes you take a hard look at all of your contracts: a single person could prevent you from issuing the digital version of an entire magazine. 

And, unless things have changed drastically, BPA won&#039;t allow you to count the readership of a digital version of a publication unless it is substantially the same as the audited print version. 

As a result, since the 1990s most publishers have added ancillary rights clauses that give them perpetual rights in whatever digital products happen to come along.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeremy &#8211; </p>
<p>At Outside Magazine, there would be writers that would have special deals that governed how their stuff could be used. These deals would later came to haunt the publication when it started working with Seattle-based Starwave on its first online initiative. Once you run into a situation like that it makes you take a hard look at all of your contracts: a single person could prevent you from issuing the digital version of an entire magazine. </p>
<p>And, unless things have changed drastically, BPA won&#8217;t allow you to count the readership of a digital version of a publication unless it is substantially the same as the audited print version. </p>
<p>As a result, since the 1990s most publishers have added ancillary rights clauses that give them perpetual rights in whatever digital products happen to come along.</p>
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		<title>By: Электронные книги - TimeOut готовит электронные путеводители</title>
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		<dc:creator>Электронные книги - TimeOut готовит электронные путеводители</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 21:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Time Out creates eBooks for city guides, takes the Murdoch paid-for route &#124; Tnooz Just days after Travellerspoint revealed its simplistic, on-demand email city and country guides, social and travel publishing giant Time Out unveils its own take on the on-the-go guides. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Time Out creates eBooks for city guides, takes the Murdoch paid-for route | Tnooz Just days after Travellerspoint revealed its simplistic, on-demand email city and country guides, social and travel publishing giant Time Out unveils its own take on the on-the-go guides. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin May</title>
		<link>http://www.tnooz.com/2009/12/07/news/time-out-creates-ebooks-for-city-guides-takes-the-murdoch-paid-for-route/#comment-3009</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin May</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 20:45:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hugh: link fixed. thx :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hugh: link fixed. thx <img src='http://www.tnooz.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Hugh McGuire</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hugh McGuire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 20:40:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting. ebooks (w. links etc) + mobile = huge business opportunity, turning travel books into measurable transaction machines. Not to mention that for readers/travelers it means having info updated to latest info right now, rather than the latest info from 2 years ago.

By the way, the link to &quot;Internet is ruining travel journalism&quot; is sending me to the wrong thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting. ebooks (w. links etc) + mobile = huge business opportunity, turning travel books into measurable transaction machines. Not to mention that for readers/travelers it means having info updated to latest info right now, rather than the latest info from 2 years ago.</p>
<p>By the way, the link to &#8220;Internet is ruining travel journalism&#8221; is sending me to the wrong thing.</p>
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		<title>By: uberVU - social comments</title>
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		<dc:creator>uberVU - social comments</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 13:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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This post was mentioned on Twitter by kevinlukemay: Time Out creates eBooks for city guides, takes the Murdoch paid-for route &#124; Tnooz http://bit.ly/7Thx9c...</description>
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<p>This post was mentioned on Twitter by kevinlukemay: Time Out creates eBooks for city guides, takes the Murdoch paid-for route | Tnooz <a href="http://bit.ly/7Thx9c.." rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/7Thx9c..</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Tweets that mention Time Out creates eBooks for city guides, takes the Murdoch paid-for route &#124; Tnooz -- Topsy.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tweets that mention Time Out creates eBooks for city guides, takes the Murdoch paid-for route &#124; Tnooz -- Topsy.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 12:46:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by saraboargs, Kevin May. Kevin May said: Time Out creates eBooks for city guides, takes the Murdoch paid-for route &#124; Tnooz http://bit.ly/7Thx9c [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Head</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy Head</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 12:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As one of those &#039;scribes&#039; - although I hasten to point out not for LP or Time Out - this issue of taking copy I&#039;ve written for a print edition and using for other projects is truly vexing. But there&#039;s nothing I can do about it... contractually everything I write can be used and reused wherever the publisher wants. I wonder though whether this is the case for all publishers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As one of those &#8216;scribes&#8217; &#8211; although I hasten to point out not for LP or Time Out &#8211; this issue of taking copy I&#8217;ve written for a print edition and using for other projects is truly vexing. But there&#8217;s nothing I can do about it&#8230; contractually everything I write can be used and reused wherever the publisher wants. I wonder though whether this is the case for all publishers?</p>
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