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	<title>Comments on: Travel industry &#8216;trench warfare&#8217; turns Farelogix open source experiment into a dud</title>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://www.tnooz.com/2009/12/10/news/travel-industry-trench-warfare-turns-farelogix-open-source-experiment-into-a-dud/#comment-3517</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 20:01:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These are the exact concerns the GPL was designed to allay. Farelogix should consider relicensing with a share-alike license that requires there competitors to contribute back.

The problem here isn&#039;t with the industry, or with the open source model. It is with Farelogix&#039;s poor choice of license for the environment and their goals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These are the exact concerns the GPL was designed to allay. Farelogix should consider relicensing with a share-alike license that requires there competitors to contribute back.</p>
<p>The problem here isn&#8217;t with the industry, or with the open source model. It is with Farelogix&#8217;s poor choice of license for the environment and their goals.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 19:59:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These are the exact concerns</description>
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		<title>By: Dennis Schaal</title>
		<link>http://www.tnooz.com/2009/12/10/news/travel-industry-trench-warfare-turns-farelogix-open-source-experiment-into-a-dud/#comment-3257</link>
		<dc:creator>Dennis Schaal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 19:02:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gregg: I apologize for misinterpreting your remarks. You were referring to Farelogix&#039;s collaborative approach to the SPRK desktop, and I thought you were referring to Farelogix&#039;s open source, collaborative approach to Project Hawkeye, which is the desktop that is at the foundation of SPRK. When I was speaking to Jim Davidson of Farelogix after the event about why Project Hawkeye has not gained much traction, he referred to your comments about the lack of cooperation in the travel industry.

I think your comments -- &quot;travel is a huge, hyper-competitive market with large segments trying to undermine or eliminate other large segments and vice versa&quot; gets at the heart of the issue about what happened to Hawkeye. Competitors are loathe to cooperate on a point of sale tool even if collaboration would move the industry forward.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gregg: I apologize for misinterpreting your remarks. You were referring to Farelogix&#8217;s collaborative approach to the SPRK desktop, and I thought you were referring to Farelogix&#8217;s open source, collaborative approach to Project Hawkeye, which is the desktop that is at the foundation of SPRK. When I was speaking to Jim Davidson of Farelogix after the event about why Project Hawkeye has not gained much traction, he referred to your comments about the lack of cooperation in the travel industry.</p>
<p>I think your comments &#8212; &#8220;travel is a huge, hyper-competitive market with large segments trying to undermine or eliminate other large segments and vice versa&#8221; gets at the heart of the issue about what happened to Hawkeye. Competitors are loathe to cooperate on a point of sale tool even if collaboration would move the industry forward.</p>
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		<title>By: Gregg Brockway</title>
		<link>http://www.tnooz.com/2009/12/10/news/travel-industry-trench-warfare-turns-farelogix-open-source-experiment-into-a-dud/#comment-3255</link>
		<dc:creator>Gregg Brockway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 18:28:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dennis, 

To clarify, my remarks in Miami were intended as a compliment to Farelogix for taking an open, collaborative approach with SPRK. By bringing the Industry Best partners together around the product, they are providing a better solution than if they tried to do everything on their own. As far as Hawkeye goes, I don&#039;t recall ever mentioning it and honestly have little visibility into how successful it has been or will be. 

Regarding the travel industry, I believe I said an open, collaborative approach to solving problems isn&#039;t the norm. While there are exceptions like Open Travel Alliance, I have found &quot;trench warfare&quot; and &quot;mutually assured destruction&quot; to be more common strategies in my 10+ years in the industry. 

Let&#039;s face it, travel is a huge, hyper-competitive market with large segments trying to undermine or eliminate other large segments and vice versa. I don&#039;t think these comments constitute &quot;industry bashing&quot;. This dynamic is actually what keeps the industry interesting and why so many of us are addicted to pursuing it&#039;s many opportunities. 

Gregg Brockway, President, TripIt</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dennis, </p>
<p>To clarify, my remarks in Miami were intended as a compliment to Farelogix for taking an open, collaborative approach with SPRK. By bringing the Industry Best partners together around the product, they are providing a better solution than if they tried to do everything on their own. As far as Hawkeye goes, I don&#8217;t recall ever mentioning it and honestly have little visibility into how successful it has been or will be. </p>
<p>Regarding the travel industry, I believe I said an open, collaborative approach to solving problems isn&#8217;t the norm. While there are exceptions like Open Travel Alliance, I have found &#8220;trench warfare&#8221; and &#8220;mutually assured destruction&#8221; to be more common strategies in my 10+ years in the industry. </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s face it, travel is a huge, hyper-competitive market with large segments trying to undermine or eliminate other large segments and vice versa. I don&#8217;t think these comments constitute &#8220;industry bashing&#8221;. This dynamic is actually what keeps the industry interesting and why so many of us are addicted to pursuing it&#8217;s many opportunities. </p>
<p>Gregg Brockway, President, TripIt</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Rusteberg</title>
		<link>http://www.tnooz.com/2009/12/10/news/travel-industry-trench-warfare-turns-farelogix-open-source-experiment-into-a-dud/#comment-3200</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin Rusteberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 20:52:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think norm, valyn and brian are bringing up valid points that the project could work on should they be interested to grow it:

- market (this is already a part of it, but even though i&#039;m aware of flx, i wasn&#039;t aware of hawkeye, probably give it a catchier, more travel-related name in the process...)
- distribute (link directly to the sf.net download for potential users)
- simplify (successful os developments do not have such an expansive requirement list, most of them simply need an operating system and at most other open source files, from what i can see this could be ported as well)
- engage (communicate with potential users, not let people&#039;s posts to the sf.net board unanswered)

personally, i don&#039;t know many open source products for travel tech. although you can use open source to work with your data and inventory, the distribution so far always costs (very high implementation certification and connection fees which make it very difficult for entrants from developing countries, even for less-funded ventures, to start out) too much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think norm, valyn and brian are bringing up valid points that the project could work on should they be interested to grow it:</p>
<p>- market (this is already a part of it, but even though i&#8217;m aware of flx, i wasn&#8217;t aware of hawkeye, probably give it a catchier, more travel-related name in the process&#8230;)<br />
- distribute (link directly to the sf.net download for potential users)<br />
- simplify (successful os developments do not have such an expansive requirement list, most of them simply need an operating system and at most other open source files, from what i can see this could be ported as well)<br />
- engage (communicate with potential users, not let people&#8217;s posts to the sf.net board unanswered)</p>
<p>personally, i don&#8217;t know many open source products for travel tech. although you can use open source to work with your data and inventory, the distribution so far always costs (very high implementation certification and connection fees which make it very difficult for entrants from developing countries, even for less-funded ventures, to start out) too much.</p>
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		<title>By: The Week in Travel Tech - December 6 to 12 2009 &#124; Tnooz</title>
		<link>http://www.tnooz.com/2009/12/10/news/travel-industry-trench-warfare-turns-farelogix-open-source-experiment-into-a-dud/#comment-3183</link>
		<dc:creator>The Week in Travel Tech - December 6 to 12 2009 &#124; Tnooz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 15:37:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Travel industry ‘trench warfare’ turns Farelogix open source experiment into a dud [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Travel industry ‘trench warfare’ turns Farelogix open source experiment into a dud [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis Schaal</title>
		<link>http://www.tnooz.com/2009/12/10/news/travel-industry-trench-warfare-turns-farelogix-open-source-experiment-into-a-dud/#comment-3152</link>
		<dc:creator>Dennis Schaal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 22:14:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Norm: Thanks. Why do you think there is a lack of an open source community in the travel industry in particular? Why can&#039;t this industry get its act together when others can? What is wrong with us? [Why am I asking so many questions:)]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Norm: Thanks. Why do you think there is a lack of an open source community in the travel industry in particular? Why can&#8217;t this industry get its act together when others can? What is wrong with us? [Why am I asking so many questions:)]</p>
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		<title>By: Norm</title>
		<link>http://www.tnooz.com/2009/12/10/news/travel-industry-trench-warfare-turns-farelogix-open-source-experiment-into-a-dud/#comment-3147</link>
		<dc:creator>Norm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 17:31:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good discussion.  I do question whether an open source community exists in the travel space.  Most likely traction will come from non-US locations as fragmentation of inventory at the point of sale is more severe outside the US.  Every travel agency needs a multi-source POS.  Using the Hawkeye platform as the basis for an internally developed POS solution is a more likely  outcome rather than an community generated solution.  This is unfortunate as community sharing could help build a more robust application.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good discussion.  I do question whether an open source community exists in the travel space.  Most likely traction will come from non-US locations as fragmentation of inventory at the point of sale is more severe outside the US.  Every travel agency needs a multi-source POS.  Using the Hawkeye platform as the basis for an internally developed POS solution is a more likely  outcome rather than an community generated solution.  This is unfortunate as community sharing could help build a more robust application.</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis Schaal</title>
		<link>http://www.tnooz.com/2009/12/10/news/travel-industry-trench-warfare-turns-farelogix-open-source-experiment-into-a-dud/#comment-3143</link>
		<dc:creator>Dennis Schaal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 16:40:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Jim: You be a straight-shooter and I admire that. Keep it up. All the officials who hide behind corporate-speak could learn something from you. IMHO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Jim: You be a straight-shooter and I admire that. Keep it up. All the officials who hide behind corporate-speak could learn something from you. IMHO.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Davidson</title>
		<link>http://www.tnooz.com/2009/12/10/news/travel-industry-trench-warfare-turns-farelogix-open-source-experiment-into-a-dud/#comment-3141</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Davidson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:27:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing about Davidson (don&#039;t you just hate it when people talk in the third person), is that patience is not one of his strong points.

And yes, Hawkeye developers do need a few common development tools.  As stated on our website:
Required Development Tools
Hawkeye requires the following developer tools that are not included in the download:

Microsoft .NET Framework 3.5 
If you don’t already have it, this can be downloaded from http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=333325FD-AE52-4E35-B531-508D977D32A6&amp;displaylang=en

Telerik RadControls for ASP.NET AJAX 
If you don’t already have it, this can be obtained from www.telerik.com. You will need to either purchase a developer license or download a trial version.  Hawkeye uses version 2008.3.1105.35

Microsoft Visual Studio 2008
Required for de-bugging. If you don’t already have it, this can be purchased from www.microsoft.com or a number of other sites. 

BTW - Telerik is used to make the display of content more productive through the use of matrix, pull-downs, etc.  Otherwise it could end up looking like a GDS green screen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing about Davidson (don&#8217;t you just hate it when people talk in the third person), is that patience is not one of his strong points.</p>
<p>And yes, Hawkeye developers do need a few common development tools.  As stated on our website:<br />
Required Development Tools<br />
Hawkeye requires the following developer tools that are not included in the download:</p>
<p>Microsoft .NET Framework 3.5<br />
If you don’t already have it, this can be downloaded from <a href="http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=333325FD-AE52-4E35-B531-508D977D32A6&#038;displaylang=en" rel="nofollow">http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=333325FD-AE52-4E35-B531-508D977D32A6&#038;displaylang=en</a></p>
<p>Telerik RadControls for ASP.NET AJAX<br />
If you don’t already have it, this can be obtained from <a href="http://www.telerik.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.telerik.com</a>. You will need to either purchase a developer license or download a trial version.  Hawkeye uses version 2008.3.1105.35</p>
<p>Microsoft Visual Studio 2008<br />
Required for de-bugging. If you don’t already have it, this can be purchased from <a href="http://www.microsoft.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.microsoft.com</a> or a number of other sites. </p>
<p>BTW &#8211; Telerik is used to make the display of content more productive through the use of matrix, pull-downs, etc.  Otherwise it could end up looking like a GDS green screen.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Davidson</title>
		<link>http://www.tnooz.com/2009/12/10/news/travel-industry-trench-warfare-turns-farelogix-open-source-experiment-into-a-dud/#comment-3139</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Davidson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:12:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Note on the on Ouch! comment.  Seems like this industry sees reporting the the truth and being transparent as a bad thing.  If I had not wanted the truth to be out there about the lack of an Hawkeye Open Source community developing I would have not talked with Dennis or I would have &quot;made-up&quot; a different &quot;angle&quot;.  Seems like this indusrty needs a bit more of the Ouch! being reported so we all stay relevant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Note on the on Ouch! comment.  Seems like this industry sees reporting the the truth and being transparent as a bad thing.  If I had not wanted the truth to be out there about the lack of an Hawkeye Open Source community developing I would have not talked with Dennis or I would have &#8220;made-up&#8221; a different &#8220;angle&#8221;.  Seems like this indusrty needs a bit more of the Ouch! being reported so we all stay relevant.</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis Schaal</title>
		<link>http://www.tnooz.com/2009/12/10/news/travel-industry-trench-warfare-turns-farelogix-open-source-experiment-into-a-dud/#comment-3128</link>
		<dc:creator>Dennis Schaal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 11:59:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian: It&#039;s interesting what you say about the key with open source initiatives being patience. Do you think Davidson could be correct that it might take 2-3 years for Hawkeye? Or is Valyn&#039;s point more relevant: that travel industry competitors likely won&#039;t collaborate on a key differentiator -- a desktop application?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian: It&#8217;s interesting what you say about the key with open source initiatives being patience. Do you think Davidson could be correct that it might take 2-3 years for Hawkeye? Or is Valyn&#8217;s point more relevant: that travel industry competitors likely won&#8217;t collaborate on a key differentiator &#8212; a desktop application?</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis Schaal</title>
		<link>http://www.tnooz.com/2009/12/10/news/travel-industry-trench-warfare-turns-farelogix-open-source-experiment-into-a-dud/#comment-3127</link>
		<dc:creator>Dennis Schaal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 11:57:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Valyn: I understand now that indeed there is a development tool required to play around with Hawkeye. I guess the cost would be prohibitive for some, although perhaps many organizations already have the tool.
I think your point about how successful open source initiatives usually do not revolve around specific business processes likely gets at the heart of the issue. I was hinting at that when I referenced Mozilla. So, perhaps I was a bit guilty of excessive travel-industry bashing. Perhaps Gregg Brockway erred in that regard also. I would love to hear what other people think about this point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Valyn: I understand now that indeed there is a development tool required to play around with Hawkeye. I guess the cost would be prohibitive for some, although perhaps many organizations already have the tool.<br />
I think your point about how successful open source initiatives usually do not revolve around specific business processes likely gets at the heart of the issue. I was hinting at that when I referenced Mozilla. So, perhaps I was a bit guilty of excessive travel-industry bashing. Perhaps Gregg Brockway erred in that regard also. I would love to hear what other people think about this point.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Hayashi</title>
		<link>http://www.tnooz.com/2009/12/10/news/travel-industry-trench-warfare-turns-farelogix-open-source-experiment-into-a-dud/#comment-3116</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Hayashi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 21:08:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The more specific the app, the smaller the potential user and developer base. 

The Knight Foundation, which has an annual contest to fund open source news startups, has had varying levels of success, and may be a good place to solicit suggestions on how to spur adoption.

The key is patience. A former associate of mine, Marc Ewing, evangelized open source Linux for eight years before he found success as the founding CTO of Red Hat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The more specific the app, the smaller the potential user and developer base. </p>
<p>The Knight Foundation, which has an annual contest to fund open source news startups, has had varying levels of success, and may be a good place to solicit suggestions on how to spur adoption.</p>
<p>The key is patience. A former associate of mine, Marc Ewing, evangelized open source Linux for eight years before he found success as the founding CTO of Red Hat.</p>
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		<title>By: Valyn Perini</title>
		<link>http://www.tnooz.com/2009/12/10/news/travel-industry-trench-warfare-turns-farelogix-open-source-experiment-into-a-dud/#comment-3115</link>
		<dc:creator>Valyn Perini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:58:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While it’s entirely true that the travel industry is quite competitive, laying the blame for the lack of interest in Hawkeye on the industry is not entirely fair.
 
Successful open source initiatives - Joomla, Firefox, Drupal, MediaWiki, PHPbb - tend to offer solutions in information management and presentation, generally not in specific business processes like point-of-sale.

And my developer friends tell me Hawkeye required a specific development environment and set of tools, limiting its reach to those who had experience with (and who paid a fair amount of money for licenses for) those tools.

Our own initiative at OpenTravel keeps us well above the process fray, as we provide connectivity for inventory control, not a back-office application.  And because we create XML schema that can be utilized in any technical environment and managed with a variety of tools, just about any company that isn’t tied to EDIFACT can implement our schema.

Don’t get me wrong – providing open standards solutions to an industry as competitive (and as ridden with legacy technology) as travel is no walk in the park.  Even with offering just XML connectivity solutions I get pushback (after all, every company thinks their own API is best), but the thousands of companies that have participated in our work groups and project teams, not to mention the thousands of companies that have actually implemented our schema, tell me that the industry can work together on open source projects, provided the scope of the initiative is realistic.

It may very well be that Jim Davidson is ahead of his time and in three years, Hawkeye will be all over the map, especially if the suppliers actively embrace more open ways of doing business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While it’s entirely true that the travel industry is quite competitive, laying the blame for the lack of interest in Hawkeye on the industry is not entirely fair.</p>
<p>Successful open source initiatives &#8211; Joomla, Firefox, Drupal, MediaWiki, PHPbb &#8211; tend to offer solutions in information management and presentation, generally not in specific business processes like point-of-sale.</p>
<p>And my developer friends tell me Hawkeye required a specific development environment and set of tools, limiting its reach to those who had experience with (and who paid a fair amount of money for licenses for) those tools.</p>
<p>Our own initiative at OpenTravel keeps us well above the process fray, as we provide connectivity for inventory control, not a back-office application.  And because we create XML schema that can be utilized in any technical environment and managed with a variety of tools, just about any company that isn’t tied to EDIFACT can implement our schema.</p>
<p>Don’t get me wrong – providing open standards solutions to an industry as competitive (and as ridden with legacy technology) as travel is no walk in the park.  Even with offering just XML connectivity solutions I get pushback (after all, every company thinks their own API is best), but the thousands of companies that have participated in our work groups and project teams, not to mention the thousands of companies that have actually implemented our schema, tell me that the industry can work together on open source projects, provided the scope of the initiative is realistic.</p>
<p>It may very well be that Jim Davidson is ahead of his time and in three years, Hawkeye will be all over the map, especially if the suppliers actively embrace more open ways of doing business.</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis Schaal</title>
		<link>http://www.tnooz.com/2009/12/10/news/travel-industry-trench-warfare-turns-farelogix-open-source-experiment-into-a-dud/#comment-3095</link>
		<dc:creator>Dennis Schaal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 13:24:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan: Yes, thanks. That&#039;s what it is all about. As a journalist, you strive to be transparent, honest and to call &#039;em like you see &#039;em.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan: Yes, thanks. That&#8217;s what it is all about. As a journalist, you strive to be transparent, honest and to call &#8216;em like you see &#8216;em.</p>
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		<title>By: Tweets that mention Travel industry 'trench warfare' turns Farelogix open source experiment into a dud &#124; Tnooz -- Topsy.com</title>
		<link>http://www.tnooz.com/2009/12/10/news/travel-industry-trench-warfare-turns-farelogix-open-source-experiment-into-a-dud/#comment-3094</link>
		<dc:creator>Tweets that mention Travel industry 'trench warfare' turns Farelogix open source experiment into a dud &#124; Tnooz -- Topsy.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 13:01:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Dennis Schaal, Dennis Schaal. Dennis Schaal said: Travel industry ‘trench warfare’ turns Farelogix open source experiment into a dud (Tnooz) #opensource http://ping.fm/IZIMz [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Dennis Schaal, Dennis Schaal. Dennis Schaal said: Travel industry ‘trench warfare’ turns Farelogix open source experiment into a dud (Tnooz) #opensource <a href="http://ping.fm/IZIMz" rel="nofollow">http://ping.fm/IZIMz</a> [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dan G.</title>
		<link>http://www.tnooz.com/2009/12/10/news/travel-industry-trench-warfare-turns-farelogix-open-source-experiment-into-a-dud/#comment-3093</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 12:52:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[Disclosure: This reporting was gathered on a press trip, with lodging and air paid by Farelogix.]

Ouch! Biting the hand that feeds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[Disclosure: This reporting was gathered on a press trip, with lodging and air paid by Farelogix.]</p>
<p>Ouch! Biting the hand that feeds.</p>
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