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		<title>By: Who will make money from mobile in travel and how will they do it? &#124; Tnooz</title>
		<link>http://www.tnooz.com/2009/12/17/gadgets/dmos-and-mobile-there-is-hope-for-them-yet/#comment-19993</link>
		<dc:creator>Who will make money from mobile in travel and how will they do it? &#124; Tnooz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Apr 2010 10:43:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] he problem with destination content to date has in part been not fully understanding the role of satisficing behaviour -- more is not necessarily better, and timing is key. There are some great companies in this space, but the product has never been embraced by consumers to the extent it deserved. This is one reason why I think DMO&#8217;s on their own face an uphill battle in mobile, despite having the most local content and a few already making a valiant effort in mobile. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] he problem with destination content to date has in part been not fully understanding the role of satisficing behaviour &#8212; more is not necessarily better, and timing is key. There are some great companies in this space, but the product has never been embraced by consumers to the extent it deserved. This is one reason why I think DMO&#8217;s on their own face an uphill battle in mobile, despite having the most local content and a few already making a valiant effort in mobile. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Much to admire, still more to do, with boredom-fixing Goby iPhone app &#124; Tnooz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Much to admire, still more to do, with boredom-fixing Goby iPhone app &#124; Tnooz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Apr 2010 19:20:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] currently indicate how many results were found.  If companies like Goby could find a way to work with DMOs then they could access to an abundant source of local data and provide added value for destinations [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Joebertl</title>
		<link>http://www.tnooz.com/2009/12/17/gadgets/dmos-and-mobile-there-is-hope-for-them-yet/#comment-4112</link>
		<dc:creator>Joebertl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 21:42:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Together with a partner (intermaps) we (the Austrian National Tourist Office) currently developed iSki Austria, an iPhone app with current informations of all relevant SkiResorts in Austria, maps, snow heights, how many, which slopes are open and which cablecars are in service and so on. The result: more then 25.000 downloads within 6 months. Just one press-release and no more marketing. That&#039;s it. A story of success.

So - we are short before launching iAlps - a summer-iPhone-app for Austria. It will be less succesful because winter-holiday is still more popular in Austria, but it will be worth the (little) money we invest in it.

But another question occurs: is it really the job of an DMO to develop mobile apps? Like Reinhard Lanner posted: For iPhone Users it is much more convenient to use apps user already know, have used and know the interface instead of download an app for each country/DMO I am visiting with different way of information and navigation. 

The same question already occured in running travel communities of a destination like Austria. We tried (www.coolaustria.com) - and failed. Some others still go on (www.communityofsweden.com , http://reisetips.visitnorway.com) but up to my opinion there is no future for DMO&#039;s to step into tripadvisors or wayns biz modell.

And I have a similar opinion about dmo-applications: most of them wont work. Yes, DMO&#039;s will fail and misinvest a lot of time and money in developing mobile activities! The only way to avoid this is if the mobile activities focus consequently to support the user&#039;s needs during the travel planning process. I mean it is necessary to clearly focus on potential guests and online(iphone)user who already made the decision of a destination, who already are in detail-planning of their trip. Here there is a chance for DMO&#039;s to succeed. Why? Because a lot of people don&#039;t want to rely an commercial sites and prefer and trust &quot;official&quot; ones.

Conclusion: It is a DMO job to edit current and relevant content of a destination AND to aggregate relevant content of a DMO from other content providers like online media, hotels, travel guides, UGC and so on. The way to syndicate the content is the next step. Propably it is also via mobile apps. But first this relevant content of a destination has to be aggregated on the DMO-website, then it has to be shared via own communication channels like newsletters, twitter, FB-fanpages, Digg or del.icio.us bookmarks, then via distribution partners (f.e. tripadvisor, holiday check and so on offers DMO&#039;s to place their content on their sites - for free!)and &quot;not least but last (!)&quot; it is the mobile sector which is a channel for distribution of DMO-content.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Together with a partner (intermaps) we (the Austrian National Tourist Office) currently developed iSki Austria, an iPhone app with current informations of all relevant SkiResorts in Austria, maps, snow heights, how many, which slopes are open and which cablecars are in service and so on. The result: more then 25.000 downloads within 6 months. Just one press-release and no more marketing. That&#8217;s it. A story of success.</p>
<p>So &#8211; we are short before launching iAlps &#8211; a summer-iPhone-app for Austria. It will be less succesful because winter-holiday is still more popular in Austria, but it will be worth the (little) money we invest in it.</p>
<p>But another question occurs: is it really the job of an DMO to develop mobile apps? Like Reinhard Lanner posted: For iPhone Users it is much more convenient to use apps user already know, have used and know the interface instead of download an app for each country/DMO I am visiting with different way of information and navigation. </p>
<p>The same question already occured in running travel communities of a destination like Austria. We tried (www.coolaustria.com) &#8211; and failed. Some others still go on (www.communityofsweden.com , <a href="http://reisetips.visitnorway.com" rel="nofollow">http://reisetips.visitnorway.com</a>) but up to my opinion there is no future for DMO&#8217;s to step into tripadvisors or wayns biz modell.</p>
<p>And I have a similar opinion about dmo-applications: most of them wont work. Yes, DMO&#8217;s will fail and misinvest a lot of time and money in developing mobile activities! The only way to avoid this is if the mobile activities focus consequently to support the user&#8217;s needs during the travel planning process. I mean it is necessary to clearly focus on potential guests and online(iphone)user who already made the decision of a destination, who already are in detail-planning of their trip. Here there is a chance for DMO&#8217;s to succeed. Why? Because a lot of people don&#8217;t want to rely an commercial sites and prefer and trust &#8220;official&#8221; ones.</p>
<p>Conclusion: It is a DMO job to edit current and relevant content of a destination AND to aggregate relevant content of a DMO from other content providers like online media, hotels, travel guides, UGC and so on. The way to syndicate the content is the next step. Propably it is also via mobile apps. But first this relevant content of a destination has to be aggregated on the DMO-website, then it has to be shared via own communication channels like newsletters, twitter, FB-fanpages, Digg or del.icio.us bookmarks, then via distribution partners (f.e. tripadvisor, holiday check and so on offers DMO&#8217;s to place their content on their sites &#8211; for free!)and &#8220;not least but last (!)&#8221; it is the mobile sector which is a channel for distribution of DMO-content.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Buhler</title>
		<link>http://www.tnooz.com/2009/12/17/gadgets/dmos-and-mobile-there-is-hope-for-them-yet/#comment-3639</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Buhler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 01:26:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do agree that any DMO should be congratulated for taking a path to innovation and embrace it. Having said that, rather than trying to develop technology capabilities in-house I would suggest they actively talk to any of the growing number of travel innovators whose main focus is on producing technology solutions. In most cases the best apps have been developed by those start-ups rather than by DMOs inside their organizations. That&#039;s just how the free market operates so take advantage of it. Also, in many cases the destinations by now have the traffic to leverage and many of the start-ups do not. It&#039;s a win-win to work together.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do agree that any DMO should be congratulated for taking a path to innovation and embrace it. Having said that, rather than trying to develop technology capabilities in-house I would suggest they actively talk to any of the growing number of travel innovators whose main focus is on producing technology solutions. In most cases the best apps have been developed by those start-ups rather than by DMOs inside their organizations. That&#8217;s just how the free market operates so take advantage of it. Also, in many cases the destinations by now have the traffic to leverage and many of the start-ups do not. It&#8217;s a win-win to work together.</p>
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		<title>By: Stuart McDonald</title>
		<link>http://www.tnooz.com/2009/12/17/gadgets/dmos-and-mobile-there-is-hope-for-them-yet/#comment-3637</link>
		<dc:creator>Stuart McDonald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 00:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Stephen,
I hadn&#039;t read your earlier post, but now that I have realise I was probably a bit on the wrong page on this. I do think though, highlighting a particular app does open it to critiquing -- where there has been a fair bit of both in my post and others. 

Yes, I agree totally that innovation should be encouraged. The App Store is full of mediocre or worse travel Apps, and the sooner the quality improves the sooner consumers will benefit and the sooner developers will be able to make more dosh.

After reading the comments on the other post I went and downloaded the Amsterdam Mobile Guide -- it&#039;s an excellent product and excels in many of the points where the above failed. It&#039;s probably one of the best destination apps I&#039;ve come across so far.

Cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Stephen,<br />
I hadn&#8217;t read your earlier post, but now that I have realise I was probably a bit on the wrong page on this. I do think though, highlighting a particular app does open it to critiquing &#8212; where there has been a fair bit of both in my post and others. </p>
<p>Yes, I agree totally that innovation should be encouraged. The App Store is full of mediocre or worse travel Apps, and the sooner the quality improves the sooner consumers will benefit and the sooner developers will be able to make more dosh.</p>
<p>After reading the comments on the other post I went and downloaded the Amsterdam Mobile Guide &#8212; it&#8217;s an excellent product and excels in many of the points where the above failed. It&#8217;s probably one of the best destination apps I&#8217;ve come across so far.</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Joyce</title>
		<link>http://www.tnooz.com/2009/12/17/gadgets/dmos-and-mobile-there-is-hope-for-them-yet/#comment-3636</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Joyce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 23:34:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stuart, I think David Janes would probably hold his app up as an example of how a DMO app should be built. I think the point is that a DMO actually spent the time, resources, and budget to put something like this together.  DMOs are not particularly famous for being cutting edge or innovative.  Although this may not be a stellar app, it shows that DMOs can be creative and innovative.  Yes, there are definitely areas for improvement, but we should be encouraging innovation in order to keep moving forward.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stuart, I think David Janes would probably hold his app up as an example of how a DMO app should be built. I think the point is that a DMO actually spent the time, resources, and budget to put something like this together.  DMOs are not particularly famous for being cutting edge or innovative.  Although this may not be a stellar app, it shows that DMOs can be creative and innovative.  Yes, there are definitely areas for improvement, but we should be encouraging innovation in order to keep moving forward.</p>
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		<title>By: Stuart McDonald</title>
		<link>http://www.tnooz.com/2009/12/17/gadgets/dmos-and-mobile-there-is-hope-for-them-yet/#comment-3526</link>
		<dc:creator>Stuart McDonald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 04:28:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Surely there are better DMO apps out there than this one? 

Do you really want to scroll through 400 restaurants to find somewhere to eat? Or through 200 sights to find a funpark? It doesn&#039;t even appear to have the facility to categorise by foodtype or sight. There&#039;s a lot to be said for the role of a filter. I don&#039;t want a list of everything -- I want a list of the best of everything.

Secondly, the app is useless without a network connection. I assume tourists from other countries are one of the target markets -- they can look forward to some Hefty roaming bills.

Thirdly, boring lists and thumbnail pics do not get me inspired -- at all.

Lastly, it is very slow -- though that could be down to my internet connection.

Frankly this is a very mediocre app. Surely there are better ones out there to illustrate what a good DMO app can provide?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surely there are better DMO apps out there than this one? </p>
<p>Do you really want to scroll through 400 restaurants to find somewhere to eat? Or through 200 sights to find a funpark? It doesn&#8217;t even appear to have the facility to categorise by foodtype or sight. There&#8217;s a lot to be said for the role of a filter. I don&#8217;t want a list of everything &#8212; I want a list of the best of everything.</p>
<p>Secondly, the app is useless without a network connection. I assume tourists from other countries are one of the target markets &#8212; they can look forward to some Hefty roaming bills.</p>
<p>Thirdly, boring lists and thumbnail pics do not get me inspired &#8212; at all.</p>
<p>Lastly, it is very slow &#8212; though that could be down to my internet connection.</p>
<p>Frankly this is a very mediocre app. Surely there are better ones out there to illustrate what a good DMO app can provide?</p>
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		<title>By: The Week in Travel Tech - December 13 to 19 2009 &#124; Tnooz</title>
		<link>http://www.tnooz.com/2009/12/17/gadgets/dmos-and-mobile-there-is-hope-for-them-yet/#comment-3498</link>
		<dc:creator>The Week in Travel Tech - December 13 to 19 2009 &#124; Tnooz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 16:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] DMOs and mobile – there is hope for them yet [...]</description>
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		<title>By: David Janes</title>
		<link>http://www.tnooz.com/2009/12/17/gadgets/dmos-and-mobile-there-is-hope-for-them-yet/#comment-3487</link>
		<dc:creator>David Janes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 11:10:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reinhard&#039;s question is not unlike asking &quot;Because Lonely Planet has a guide for City X, why should I go to their DMO to get further information?&quot;. The reason is that the DMO is uniquely tasked with presenting the best face of the destination - they want to you to have a great time, spend lots of money, and tell all your friends, etc..

Likewise it is in the mobile space. With further innovations such as (my company) Discover Anywhere Mobile&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.discoveranywheremobile.com/blog/introducing-social-media-integration-for-tourism-apps/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;social media extensions&lt;/a&gt; - allowing the visitor to directly communicate with DMO, DMO partners and perhaps even other visitors - we can now have DMO-apps provide function that can&#039;t be by generic apps. I expect there&#039;ll be a lot more similar and surprising innovation over the next 2 to 3 years in the space.

I&#039;ll note that that&#039;s not to preclude repurposing the data onto other mobile apps, though there may be a host of issues involved with this too (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/layar_pulled_from_app_store_bad_news_for_augmented.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Layar pulled from App Store&lt;/a&gt;).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reinhard&#8217;s question is not unlike asking &#8220;Because Lonely Planet has a guide for City X, why should I go to their DMO to get further information?&#8221;. The reason is that the DMO is uniquely tasked with presenting the best face of the destination &#8211; they want to you to have a great time, spend lots of money, and tell all your friends, etc..</p>
<p>Likewise it is in the mobile space. With further innovations such as (my company) Discover Anywhere Mobile&#8217;s <a href="http://www.discoveranywheremobile.com/blog/introducing-social-media-integration-for-tourism-apps/" rel="nofollow">social media extensions</a> &#8211; allowing the visitor to directly communicate with DMO, DMO partners and perhaps even other visitors &#8211; we can now have DMO-apps provide function that can&#8217;t be by generic apps. I expect there&#8217;ll be a lot more similar and surprising innovation over the next 2 to 3 years in the space.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll note that that&#8217;s not to preclude repurposing the data onto other mobile apps, though there may be a host of issues involved with this too (<a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/layar_pulled_from_app_store_bad_news_for_augmented.php" rel="nofollow">Layar pulled from App Store</a>).</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Payne</title>
		<link>http://www.tnooz.com/2009/12/17/gadgets/dmos-and-mobile-there-is-hope-for-them-yet/#comment-3465</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Payne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 00:02:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Based on a fair amount of experience in mobile (15 years) I would have to say the app has focused on a key component of mobile (location aware) but has missed on several other elements. 

First of all full disclosure: our company QuickMobile specializes in mobile in particular iPhone application design and delivery. 

Most mobile app developers fail to capitalize on the real power of mobile and over-simplify the context of mobile. The classic mistake – “it’s the web in the palm of your hand” the first approach we often experience. 

The web is fundamentally different – it is a vast conglomeration of content and ideas – the mobile is a private personal communications channel. Hence personalization and relevance is a key driver in mobile as the constrained UI necessitates efficiency of design, navigation and content. 

In the early days of the web the websites were “Brochure ware” – this is also typical of in these early days of mobile applications – where is the interactivity or transactions or user-generated content. 

Our 2010 Sundance Film Festival iPhone app (just launched today!) includes connections to social networks and user-generated content to engage visitors – this feature among others is very applicable for DMOs looking to connect with their visitors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Based on a fair amount of experience in mobile (15 years) I would have to say the app has focused on a key component of mobile (location aware) but has missed on several other elements. </p>
<p>First of all full disclosure: our company QuickMobile specializes in mobile in particular iPhone application design and delivery. </p>
<p>Most mobile app developers fail to capitalize on the real power of mobile and over-simplify the context of mobile. The classic mistake – “it’s the web in the palm of your hand” the first approach we often experience. </p>
<p>The web is fundamentally different – it is a vast conglomeration of content and ideas – the mobile is a private personal communications channel. Hence personalization and relevance is a key driver in mobile as the constrained UI necessitates efficiency of design, navigation and content. </p>
<p>In the early days of the web the websites were “Brochure ware” – this is also typical of in these early days of mobile applications – where is the interactivity or transactions or user-generated content. </p>
<p>Our 2010 Sundance Film Festival iPhone app (just launched today!) includes connections to social networks and user-generated content to engage visitors – this feature among others is very applicable for DMOs looking to connect with their visitors.</p>
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		<title>By: Reinhard Lanner</title>
		<link>http://www.tnooz.com/2009/12/17/gadgets/dmos-and-mobile-there-is-hope-for-them-yet/#comment-3447</link>
		<dc:creator>Reinhard Lanner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 17:14:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just downloaded the App and thought it was funny as &quot;it&quot; asked me if &quot;it&quot; could use my current location (sitting here in Austria)
Anyway - many interesting things mentioned in Stephen´s article and all the comments above.
Let me ask two questions:
1) When people using mobile devices within the destination, what are their main requirements? Is it more inspiration or more facts&amp;figures?

2) If a traveller uses mobile devices when he goes to Vancouver, Seattle, Vienna, Paris &quot;some might even visit our Lammertal Valley ;-)&quot; why should she/he learn how to use 4,5 and more different Applications?
Would they not rather stay on 2-3 preferred Applications like Tripwolf, Qype or similar and use them for information?

If so, should DMOs rather invest in managing the content on the existing plattforms than investing resources in a Destination Apps?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just downloaded the App and thought it was funny as &#8220;it&#8221; asked me if &#8220;it&#8221; could use my current location (sitting here in Austria)<br />
Anyway &#8211; many interesting things mentioned in Stephen´s article and all the comments above.<br />
Let me ask two questions:<br />
1) When people using mobile devices within the destination, what are their main requirements? Is it more inspiration or more facts&amp;figures?</p>
<p>2) If a traveller uses mobile devices when he goes to Vancouver, Seattle, Vienna, Paris &#8220;some might even visit our Lammertal Valley <img src='http://www.tnooz.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> &#8221; why should she/he learn how to use 4,5 and more different Applications?<br />
Would they not rather stay on 2-3 preferred Applications like Tripwolf, Qype or similar and use them for information?</p>
<p>If so, should DMOs rather invest in managing the content on the existing plattforms than investing resources in a Destination Apps?</p>
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		<title>By: Claude</title>
		<link>http://www.tnooz.com/2009/12/17/gadgets/dmos-and-mobile-there-is-hope-for-them-yet/#comment-3423</link>
		<dc:creator>Claude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 09:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am wondering about this global mobile market.

It&#039;s a marketing game where we undressed Peter to dressed John or it&#039;s a game were we developp globaly the travel market share or new market share with this new channels?

Does anybody have some data about it?

best

Claude</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am wondering about this global mobile market.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a marketing game where we undressed Peter to dressed John or it&#8217;s a game were we developp globaly the travel market share or new market share with this new channels?</p>
<p>Does anybody have some data about it?</p>
<p>best</p>
<p>Claude</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey Kohn</title>
		<link>http://www.tnooz.com/2009/12/17/gadgets/dmos-and-mobile-there-is-hope-for-them-yet/#comment-3415</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeffrey Kohn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 01:26:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We at VisitMobile are developing an integrated iPhone and SMS solution for several North American DMOs. (http://www.visitmobile.com).  

I think the key to designing a successful mobile solution for travel and tourism is put yourself in the shoes of visitor at 3 distinct stages: Before, During, After the visit to the given destination.

To insure the application is &quot;sticky&quot; and actually used by the visitor it needs to specific value at each stage:

Before:  Where should I stay with respect to the destination&#039;s hot spots?  What&#039;s the contact information for places that need far in advance reservations?

During: What events are going on this week? Where can I find a specific product or service (e.g., sushi, coffee, playground, train station, dry cleaner, winery tour) What deals &amp; special offers are available?  What&#039;s around me right now?  What will be around me after I finish with my activity this afternoon on the other side of town?  What&#039;s the weather, traffic, snow report?

After: I want to share my favorite spots with others who are going to same destination or write a review, What events are coming up so should I return?

It is also important to ensure your mobile solution has something in it for all 3 stakeholders: 

1) Keeping the visitor happy with fresh, quick, and useful information

2) Helping industry partners get the visibility they need to drive real-time business

3) Enabling the DMO meet their mission of promoting the destination, yet ensuring cost sustainability of the solution with revenue opportunities through optional advertising.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We at VisitMobile are developing an integrated iPhone and SMS solution for several North American DMOs. (<a href="http://www.visitmobile.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.visitmobile.com</a>).  </p>
<p>I think the key to designing a successful mobile solution for travel and tourism is put yourself in the shoes of visitor at 3 distinct stages: Before, During, After the visit to the given destination.</p>
<p>To insure the application is &#8220;sticky&#8221; and actually used by the visitor it needs to specific value at each stage:</p>
<p>Before:  Where should I stay with respect to the destination&#8217;s hot spots?  What&#8217;s the contact information for places that need far in advance reservations?</p>
<p>During: What events are going on this week? Where can I find a specific product or service (e.g., sushi, coffee, playground, train station, dry cleaner, winery tour) What deals &amp; special offers are available?  What&#8217;s around me right now?  What will be around me after I finish with my activity this afternoon on the other side of town?  What&#8217;s the weather, traffic, snow report?</p>
<p>After: I want to share my favorite spots with others who are going to same destination or write a review, What events are coming up so should I return?</p>
<p>It is also important to ensure your mobile solution has something in it for all 3 stakeholders: </p>
<p>1) Keeping the visitor happy with fresh, quick, and useful information</p>
<p>2) Helping industry partners get the visibility they need to drive real-time business</p>
<p>3) Enabling the DMO meet their mission of promoting the destination, yet ensuring cost sustainability of the solution with revenue opportunities through optional advertising.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Buhler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Buhler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 00:01:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did receive a tweet today about another iPhone App by a destination at the opposite end of Canada - St. John&#039;s Newfoundland developed by David Janes&#039; company Discover Anywhere. He didn&#039;t mention it in his post above. It adds a number of features that are missing in the BC app and takes a different approach to present content. It is worth checking out. What I do miss, is a social sharing component. Agree with Emmanuelle&#039;s comment about having to market an experience and emotions and this applies also to a mobile app.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did receive a tweet today about another iPhone App by a destination at the opposite end of Canada &#8211; St. John&#8217;s Newfoundland developed by David Janes&#8217; company Discover Anywhere. He didn&#8217;t mention it in his post above. It adds a number of features that are missing in the BC app and takes a different approach to present content. It is worth checking out. What I do miss, is a social sharing component. Agree with Emmanuelle&#8217;s comment about having to market an experience and emotions and this applies also to a mobile app.</p>
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		<title>By: Emmanuelle</title>
		<link>http://www.tnooz.com/2009/12/17/gadgets/dmos-and-mobile-there-is-hope-for-them-yet/#comment-3407</link>
		<dc:creator>Emmanuelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 22:44:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although I probably shouldn’t comment as we have not yet launched an app for Montréal (I’m hoping it’s only a question of weeks :)  and although I think that mobile is the “next  big thing” for destinations, I’m a little disappointed in the functionalities of this app. With so many developers launching apps that focus on a rich experience and that favour interaction with the user, an app that limits itself to being a listing of products and places doesn’t seem to offer real added value. So why invest in this sort of tool? Also, although I’m sure this app was developed for the tourist in B.C., why not offer a tourist in a planning mode these same functionalities? Finally, I absolutely agree with the fact that peer reviews should be a key focus for any destination.

When developing these types of applications, we have the opportunity to market a product, an experience and an intangible feeling; we should always keep in mind that the visual experience and feedback are at the heart of it all.

To my colleagues in B.C., at least you guys have jumped in and developed an app – I wish we could say the same! Congrats on being one of the first. Maybe we should talk about a phase 2 and work conjointly on a more experiential app?

Emmanuelle Legault (emmanuelleMTL)
Tourisme Montréal</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although I probably shouldn’t comment as we have not yet launched an app for Montréal (I’m hoping it’s only a question of weeks <img src='http://www.tnooz.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   and although I think that mobile is the “next  big thing” for destinations, I’m a little disappointed in the functionalities of this app. With so many developers launching apps that focus on a rich experience and that favour interaction with the user, an app that limits itself to being a listing of products and places doesn’t seem to offer real added value. So why invest in this sort of tool? Also, although I’m sure this app was developed for the tourist in B.C., why not offer a tourist in a planning mode these same functionalities? Finally, I absolutely agree with the fact that peer reviews should be a key focus for any destination.</p>
<p>When developing these types of applications, we have the opportunity to market a product, an experience and an intangible feeling; we should always keep in mind that the visual experience and feedback are at the heart of it all.</p>
<p>To my colleagues in B.C., at least you guys have jumped in and developed an app – I wish we could say the same! Congrats on being one of the first. Maybe we should talk about a phase 2 and work conjointly on a more experiential app?</p>
<p>Emmanuelle Legault (emmanuelleMTL)<br />
Tourisme Montréal</p>
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		<title>By: jonah</title>
		<link>http://www.tnooz.com/2009/12/17/gadgets/dmos-and-mobile-there-is-hope-for-them-yet/#comment-3395</link>
		<dc:creator>jonah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 19:42:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The great thing about DMO&#039;s is that they don&#039;t have ALL the content, only the really good content.  I find that the problem with many apps out there is that they try to cram everything on to that tiny screen.  The truth is that, in my opinion anyway, less is better.  The best applications I have seen have presented the most relevant information that I need while mobile on my mobile.  Customization and the ability to use one&#039;s peer group (social media) as a model is key to this too.  Lastly, the ability for the businesses to communicate with the individual user while that person is mobile is a really attractive feature.  In the end, I think the coolest feature will be the two way discussion, where a user can shoot video, or upload photos from their device and them to the discussion will be incredibly valuable.


Great topic Stephen

Jonah</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The great thing about DMO&#8217;s is that they don&#8217;t have ALL the content, only the really good content.  I find that the problem with many apps out there is that they try to cram everything on to that tiny screen.  The truth is that, in my opinion anyway, less is better.  The best applications I have seen have presented the most relevant information that I need while mobile on my mobile.  Customization and the ability to use one&#8217;s peer group (social media) as a model is key to this too.  Lastly, the ability for the businesses to communicate with the individual user while that person is mobile is a really attractive feature.  In the end, I think the coolest feature will be the two way discussion, where a user can shoot video, or upload photos from their device and them to the discussion will be incredibly valuable.</p>
<p>Great topic Stephen</p>
<p>Jonah</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Buhler</title>
		<link>http://www.tnooz.com/2009/12/17/gadgets/dmos-and-mobile-there-is-hope-for-them-yet/#comment-3394</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Buhler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 19:33:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agree with a lot of what Stephen writes here. What I want to emphasize, is the need to work outward from the customer&#039;s point of view and not the DMO&#039;s. That&#039;s what being customer centric means. Accordingly, own content is not king, often there is too much of it to begin with. In my mind a truly useful app - or a destination website for that matter -  has to combine these elements:

1) The right mix of content, including UGC / reviews
2) social  tools to share it all 
3) booking functionality to reserve accommodation, restaurants and local services

What I&#039;m seeing today is the situation you describe, a growing number of solutions all done separate from each other with the resulting drawbacks you describe using the Tripwolf vs. Near Me BC app. This situation is not making it easier for the customer but rather just more complex. What is required in my opinion is - at the risk of sounding like a broken record - more cooperation between the start-up innovators and DMOs at all levels. Unless that happens, I&#039;m afraid we&#039;ll just get more and more apps, all solving part of the problem rather than offering truly useful and relevant overall solutions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree with a lot of what Stephen writes here. What I want to emphasize, is the need to work outward from the customer&#8217;s point of view and not the DMO&#8217;s. That&#8217;s what being customer centric means. Accordingly, own content is not king, often there is too much of it to begin with. In my mind a truly useful app &#8211; or a destination website for that matter &#8211;  has to combine these elements:</p>
<p>1) The right mix of content, including UGC / reviews<br />
2) social  tools to share it all<br />
3) booking functionality to reserve accommodation, restaurants and local services</p>
<p>What I&#8217;m seeing today is the situation you describe, a growing number of solutions all done separate from each other with the resulting drawbacks you describe using the Tripwolf vs. Near Me BC app. This situation is not making it easier for the customer but rather just more complex. What is required in my opinion is &#8211; at the risk of sounding like a broken record &#8211; more cooperation between the start-up innovators and DMOs at all levels. Unless that happens, I&#8217;m afraid we&#8217;ll just get more and more apps, all solving part of the problem rather than offering truly useful and relevant overall solutions.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Joyce</title>
		<link>http://www.tnooz.com/2009/12/17/gadgets/dmos-and-mobile-there-is-hope-for-them-yet/#comment-3393</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Joyce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 19:32:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a quick disclosure for the sake of transparency. Tripreviews.com is a review site that was built by Sentias (the parent company of Rezgo) for a client in Vancouver, Skyland Travel Group. Sentias is contracted to maintain the site and has a small part ownership in it. It is in no way affiliated with any other sites that start with the word &quot;Trip&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a quick disclosure for the sake of transparency. Tripreviews.com is a review site that was built by Sentias (the parent company of Rezgo) for a client in Vancouver, Skyland Travel Group. Sentias is contracted to maintain the site and has a small part ownership in it. It is in no way affiliated with any other sites that start with the word &#8220;Trip&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: jonah</title>
		<link>http://www.tnooz.com/2009/12/17/gadgets/dmos-and-mobile-there-is-hope-for-them-yet/#comment-3392</link>
		<dc:creator>jonah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 19:23:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have built some very cool iphone and blackberry apps for DMO&#039;s that do exactly what you are all suggesting.  There are no better sources for travel content in aggregate than DMO sites.  We are able to geotag everything and put on a mobile screen in a way that makes sense for the end user without overwhelming them.  Contact us for a demo.

Jonah</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have built some very cool iphone and blackberry apps for DMO&#8217;s that do exactly what you are all suggesting.  There are no better sources for travel content in aggregate than DMO sites.  We are able to geotag everything and put on a mobile screen in a way that makes sense for the end user without overwhelming them.  Contact us for a demo.</p>
<p>Jonah</p>
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		<title>By: David Janes</title>
		<link>http://www.tnooz.com/2009/12/17/gadgets/dmos-and-mobile-there-is-hope-for-them-yet/#comment-3391</link>
		<dc:creator>David Janes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 19:08:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Note that I have something of a conflict here, since my company develops competing products for DMOs. That said, here goes:

Broadly speaking, I agree with Stephen&#039;s comments (especially with regards to &quot;look&quot;), adding additionally 

You shouldn&#039;t need to &quot;choose a location&quot; to get to topics/categories - &quot;I want to eat&quot; is a more fundamental visitor activity that &quot;I plan to be in Kamloops someday&quot;. In fact, I believe that the whole concept of &quot;named places as a method of organization&quot; is a holdover from printed material thinking. With an iPhone app, the information you&#039;re presented should be entirely fluid, based on either where you are or an attraction you&#039;re interested in.

There needs to be an events calendar - visitors want to do stuff!

There has to be some consideration to the fact that not only do US visitors actually have to pay for data (making live data downloading potentially expensive), but requiring a network connection may not be idea for tourists outside of major centres. Put your iPhone in Airplane Mode and try to use the app.

And in the nitpicking category, once you&#039;ve chosen a location, you can&#039;t get back to the top level to choose a different place without leaving the app! 

You shouldn&#039;t have to leave the app to go the &quot;Hello BC&quot; site, and if they really do have to make you leave it, they should bring you back to the page you were at.

Despite the negatives, mobile applications are exactly what DMOs should be doing and this is a good start. The question here - and I guess only a visitor can really answer this - is is this app compelling enough that they&#039;ll click on it when they want to do something in BC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Note that I have something of a conflict here, since my company develops competing products for DMOs. That said, here goes:</p>
<p>Broadly speaking, I agree with Stephen&#8217;s comments (especially with regards to &#8220;look&#8221;), adding additionally </p>
<p>You shouldn&#8217;t need to &#8220;choose a location&#8221; to get to topics/categories &#8211; &#8220;I want to eat&#8221; is a more fundamental visitor activity that &#8220;I plan to be in Kamloops someday&#8221;. In fact, I believe that the whole concept of &#8220;named places as a method of organization&#8221; is a holdover from printed material thinking. With an iPhone app, the information you&#8217;re presented should be entirely fluid, based on either where you are or an attraction you&#8217;re interested in.</p>
<p>There needs to be an events calendar &#8211; visitors want to do stuff!</p>
<p>There has to be some consideration to the fact that not only do US visitors actually have to pay for data (making live data downloading potentially expensive), but requiring a network connection may not be idea for tourists outside of major centres. Put your iPhone in Airplane Mode and try to use the app.</p>
<p>And in the nitpicking category, once you&#8217;ve chosen a location, you can&#8217;t get back to the top level to choose a different place without leaving the app! </p>
<p>You shouldn&#8217;t have to leave the app to go the &#8220;Hello BC&#8221; site, and if they really do have to make you leave it, they should bring you back to the page you were at.</p>
<p>Despite the negatives, mobile applications are exactly what DMOs should be doing and this is a good start. The question here &#8211; and I guess only a visitor can really answer this &#8211; is is this app compelling enough that they&#8217;ll click on it when they want to do something in BC.</p>
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