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		<title>By: uberVU - social comments</title>
		<link>http://www.tnooz.com/2010/01/29/news/earth-org-stops-spinning-says-users-did-not-listen/#comment-9575</link>
		<dc:creator>uberVU - social comments</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 23:40:10 +0000</pubDate>
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This post was mentioned on Twitter by kevinlukemay: The Curse of Tnooz!!! Earth.org stops spinning, says users did not listen http://tinyurl.com/y8e5bjn ...</description>
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<p>This post was mentioned on Twitter by kevinlukemay: The Curse of Tnooz!!! Earth.org stops spinning, says users did not listen <a href="http://tinyurl.com/y8e5bjn" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/y8e5bjn</a> &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Earth.org enters the great Black Hole of the web &#124; Tnooz</title>
		<link>http://www.tnooz.com/2010/01/29/news/earth-org-stops-spinning-says-users-did-not-listen/#comment-9460</link>
		<dc:creator>Earth.org enters the great Black Hole of the web &#124; Tnooz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 16:50:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the site&#8217;s co-founders said they were pulling out of the project two weeks ago, somewhat controversially blaming users for not telling their friends about the site and naturally [...]</description>
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		<title>By: cactusmitch</title>
		<link>http://www.tnooz.com/2010/01/29/news/earth-org-stops-spinning-says-users-did-not-listen/#comment-7279</link>
		<dc:creator>cactusmitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 19:21:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To All interested in,,,
Earth.org, which is down for a long count.  I wanted it to succeed.  I applied for a job with them, strategist, sales planner or something.  That was last December. So...

Earth2.info 

is my answer.  Purge the ineffective, invite the effective and as the elusive EARTHlings have suggested, go forward!
Pertaining to the market value of the domain name, I have been doing some research.  There are about 1000 domain names that used the word &quot;earth.&quot;   excerpted information:
contact			,site			,views	,est value

domainadmin@exoticd...  ,earth.net		,20	,$ 76.00
support@whypark.com	,earth.com		,138	,$ 2,258.00
Mathias?		,earth.org		,21,152	,$ 5,274.00
mitch.mccann@gmail.com	,earth2.info		,0	,$ 0.00
or
elraul@earth2.info      ,
feedback@earth-2.net	,earth-2.net		,8,442	,$ 2,263.00
hostmaster@earth2.org	,earth2.org		,245	,$ 110.00
info@earthinfo.com	,earthinfo.com		,16	,$ 16.00
&gt;&gt;&gt; ??? &lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;		,earth.info		,316	,$ 126.00
cafepress.com? T-shirts ,eart-natives.com	,905	,$ 290.00

Lots of interest...probably diluted interest the best rewards go the the highest value service, IMHO  Whois me, whois them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To All interested in,,,<br />
Earth.org, which is down for a long count.  I wanted it to succeed.  I applied for a job with them, strategist, sales planner or something.  That was last December. So&#8230;</p>
<p>Earth2.info </p>
<p>is my answer.  Purge the ineffective, invite the effective and as the elusive EARTHlings have suggested, go forward!<br />
Pertaining to the market value of the domain name, I have been doing some research.  There are about 1000 domain names that used the word &#8220;earth.&#8221;   excerpted information:<br />
contact			,site			,views	,est value</p>
<p>domainadmin@exoticd&#8230;  ,earth.net		,20	,$ 76.00<br />
<a href="mailto:support@whypark.com">support@whypark.com</a>	,earth.com		,138	,$ 2,258.00<br />
Mathias?		,earth.org		,21,152	,$ 5,274.00<br />
<a href="mailto:mitch.mccann@gmail.com">mitch.mccann@gmail.com</a>	,earth2.info		,0	,$ 0.00<br />
or<br />
<a href="mailto:elraul@earth2.info">elraul@earth2.info</a>      ,<br />
<a href="mailto:feedback@earth-2.net">feedback@earth-2.net</a>	,earth-2.net		,8,442	,$ 2,263.00<br />
<a href="mailto:hostmaster@earth2.org">hostmaster@earth2.org</a>	,earth2.org		,245	,$ 110.00<br />
<a href="mailto:info@earthinfo.com">info@earthinfo.com</a>	,earthinfo.com		,16	,$ 16.00<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; ??? &lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;		,earth.info		,316	,$ 126.00<br />
cafepress.com? T-shirts ,eart-natives.com	,905	,$ 290.00</p>
<p>Lots of interest&#8230;probably diluted interest the best rewards go the the highest value service, IMHO  Whois me, whois them.</p>
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		<title>By: jon</title>
		<link>http://www.tnooz.com/2010/01/29/news/earth-org-stops-spinning-says-users-did-not-listen/#comment-7273</link>
		<dc:creator>jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 18:18:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With that kind of view towards their users, it&#039;s no wonder that this failed.  

If users weren&#039;t contributing, there could be a few reasons.  It could either be that the core idea was flawed from the start, or it could be that they did not put in the proper incentives or made it difficult for people to contribute.  If it was a product problem (which I think it was) they could have tried to iterate and improve it, but instead they just give up and blame the users.  Great job guys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With that kind of view towards their users, it&#8217;s no wonder that this failed.  </p>
<p>If users weren&#8217;t contributing, there could be a few reasons.  It could either be that the core idea was flawed from the start, or it could be that they did not put in the proper incentives or made it difficult for people to contribute.  If it was a product problem (which I think it was) they could have tried to iterate and improve it, but instead they just give up and blame the users.  Great job guys.</p>
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		<title>By: Stuart</title>
		<link>http://www.tnooz.com/2010/01/29/news/earth-org-stops-spinning-says-users-did-not-listen/#comment-7074</link>
		<dc:creator>Stuart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 14:35:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wasn&#039;t suggesting you were a loon! lol My apologies if you took it that way. 

Anyway, while this whole series of events strikes me as being quite bizarre, I think I&#039;ve contributed more than my fair share to the comments here so I&#039;ll shut up now!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wasn&#8217;t suggesting you were a loon! lol My apologies if you took it that way. </p>
<p>Anyway, while this whole series of events strikes me as being quite bizarre, I think I&#8217;ve contributed more than my fair share to the comments here so I&#8217;ll shut up now!</p>
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		<title>By: cactusmitch</title>
		<link>http://www.tnooz.com/2010/01/29/news/earth-org-stops-spinning-says-users-did-not-listen/#comment-7072</link>
		<dc:creator>cactusmitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 14:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>$5k came from mydnstats.com, a site of doubtful authority.  I suspect they just inflate the traffic by some factor, perhaps taking into account whether the site has order forms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>$5k came from mydnstats.com, a site of doubtful authority.  I suspect they just inflate the traffic by some factor, perhaps taking into account whether the site has order forms.</p>
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		<title>By: cactusmitch</title>
		<link>http://www.tnooz.com/2010/01/29/news/earth-org-stops-spinning-says-users-did-not-listen/#comment-7071</link>
		<dc:creator>cactusmitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 14:13:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stuart,

Main Entry:	loon
Part of Speech:	noun
Definition:	crackpot
Synonyms:
crazy*, deranged person, eccentric, lunatic, maniac, nut case, nut*, psychopath, sociopath

I graduated from Cubberley High in the heart of Silicone Valley, but am not a &quot;loon.&quot;  I am glad that you noticed my post and my attempt to grab the potential value that will in all likelihood go the way you suggest.  Hence my low ball earth2.info play.  I&#039;ve invested up words of $150 so far.

I appreciate your comment and vocabulary.  I thought a loon is the state bird of Minnesota, the kind that hoots all night. 
(T he)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stuart,</p>
<p>Main Entry:	loon<br />
Part of Speech:	noun<br />
Definition:	crackpot<br />
Synonyms:<br />
crazy*, deranged person, eccentric, lunatic, maniac, nut case, nut*, psychopath, sociopath</p>
<p>I graduated from Cubberley High in the heart of Silicone Valley, but am not a &#8220;loon.&#8221;  I am glad that you noticed my post and my attempt to grab the potential value that will in all likelihood go the way you suggest.  Hence my low ball earth2.info play.  I&#8217;ve invested up words of $150 so far.</p>
<p>I appreciate your comment and vocabulary.  I thought a loon is the state bird of Minnesota, the kind that hoots all night.<br />
(T he)</p>
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		<title>By: Stuart</title>
		<link>http://www.tnooz.com/2010/01/29/news/earth-org-stops-spinning-says-users-did-not-listen/#comment-7044</link>
		<dc:creator>Stuart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 03:40:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Martin,
My post was perhaps a bit unclear as I neglected to precede it with an @cactusmitch. I was addressing that comment as it contained a suggested value of $5k for the domain. I think we&#039;re in agreement that the earth.org domain is worth far far more than that -- even taking into the consideration the unusual events of the past few days. Hence my point regarding an operator like Sedo.

Cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Martin,<br />
My post was perhaps a bit unclear as I neglected to precede it with an @cactusmitch. I was addressing that comment as it contained a suggested value of $5k for the domain. I think we&#8217;re in agreement that the earth.org domain is worth far far more than that &#8212; even taking into the consideration the unusual events of the past few days. Hence my point regarding an operator like Sedo.</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Rusteberg</title>
		<link>http://www.tnooz.com/2010/01/29/news/earth-org-stops-spinning-says-users-did-not-listen/#comment-7040</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin Rusteberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 02:43:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oddly enough, i&#039;m now stumbling across adsense ads :D

@Stuart, would&#039;ve expected a more thoughtful reply from you - stricker&#039;s own 1000&#039;s of high-value domains, i&#039;m sure they are aware of their internet real estate...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oddly enough, i&#8217;m now stumbling across adsense ads <img src='http://www.tnooz.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@Stuart, would&#8217;ve expected a more thoughtful reply from you &#8211; stricker&#8217;s own 1000&#8242;s of high-value domains, i&#8217;m sure they are aware of their internet real estate&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Stuart</title>
		<link>http://www.tnooz.com/2010/01/29/news/earth-org-stops-spinning-says-users-did-not-listen/#comment-7035</link>
		<dc:creator>Stuart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 00:24:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding flogging the domain name, this is easily a six-figure sale. Both the content and existing traffic are irrelevant. They should go sell it to Nike or some cashed up Silicon Valley loon -- it is a very premium name, and if they want to sell the name and they&#039;re not already talking to Sedo and that ilk they&#039;re fools.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding flogging the domain name, this is easily a six-figure sale. Both the content and existing traffic are irrelevant. They should go sell it to Nike or some cashed up Silicon Valley loon &#8212; it is a very premium name, and if they want to sell the name and they&#8217;re not already talking to Sedo and that ilk they&#8217;re fools.</p>
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		<title>By: cactusmitch</title>
		<link>http://www.tnooz.com/2010/01/29/news/earth-org-stops-spinning-says-users-did-not-listen/#comment-7009</link>
		<dc:creator>cactusmitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 17:25:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Success rides close behind utility.  Earth.org was a light on utility.  The &quot;remote workplace&quot; is a possibly sustainable tactic, but far from a organizational strategy.  
The lack of warning portends organizational secrecy.  Mydnstats.com had earth.org a bit north of 21K visits and $5k value.  I offered $10 to start the bidding on the name, which may have value if the ill will generated by recent events is surmountable.
Were I to spend serious money on the domain name I would look at the traffic numbers to various parts of the site.  My suspicion is that most of the traffic was like me looking to earn money rather than spend money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Success rides close behind utility.  Earth.org was a light on utility.  The &#8220;remote workplace&#8221; is a possibly sustainable tactic, but far from a organizational strategy.<br />
The lack of warning portends organizational secrecy.  Mydnstats.com had earth.org a bit north of 21K visits and $5k value.  I offered $10 to start the bidding on the name, which may have value if the ill will generated by recent events is surmountable.<br />
Were I to spend serious money on the domain name I would look at the traffic numbers to various parts of the site.  My suspicion is that most of the traffic was like me looking to earn money rather than spend money.</p>
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		<title>By: Tweets that mention Earth.org stops spinning, says users did not listen &#124; Tnooz -- Topsy.com</title>
		<link>http://www.tnooz.com/2010/01/29/news/earth-org-stops-spinning-says-users-did-not-listen/#comment-6637</link>
		<dc:creator>Tweets that mention Earth.org stops spinning, says users did not listen &#124; Tnooz -- Topsy.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 14:15:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Dennis Schaal, Stuart McDonald, Karen Bryan, Karen Bryan, Lee W. Nelson and others. Lee W. Nelson said: RT @travelfish RT @tnooznooz Earth.org stops spinning, says users did not listen http://tinyurl.com/y8e5bjn &#124; bizarro indeed [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Dennis Schaal, Stuart McDonald, Karen Bryan, Karen Bryan, Lee W. Nelson and others. Lee W. Nelson said: RT @travelfish RT @tnooznooz Earth.org stops spinning, says users did not listen <a href="http://tinyurl.com/y8e5bjn" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/y8e5bjn</a> | bizarro indeed [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin May</title>
		<link>http://www.tnooz.com/2010/01/29/news/earth-org-stops-spinning-says-users-did-not-listen/#comment-6620</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin May</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 09:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve had quite a few people suggest that the whole thing might be an elaborate stunt to get attention and/or investment. 

Seems a very bizarre way of doing it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve had quite a few people suggest that the whole thing might be an elaborate stunt to get attention and/or investment. </p>
<p>Seems a very bizarre way of doing it.</p>
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		<title>By: Helen</title>
		<link>http://www.tnooz.com/2010/01/29/news/earth-org-stops-spinning-says-users-did-not-listen/#comment-6616</link>
		<dc:creator>Helen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 08:05:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds a bit &quot;Fawlty Towers&quot; to me!</description>
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		<title>By: In Travel We Trust: A Relaunch &#171; Voyageek</title>
		<link>http://www.tnooz.com/2010/01/29/news/earth-org-stops-spinning-says-users-did-not-listen/#comment-6533</link>
		<dc:creator>In Travel We Trust: A Relaunch &#171; Voyageek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 14:58:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Six months ago, I launched a Digg-like for travel videos called &#8220;In Travel We Trust&#8221;.  The site has never picked up , in my opinion  because travel video is too small a niche and probably because I didn&#8217;t work enough on the site and failed at building a community. And let&#8217;s not forget the  main reason: the damn users didn&#8217;t listen. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Six months ago, I launched a Digg-like for travel videos called &#8220;In Travel We Trust&#8221;.  The site has never picked up , in my opinion  because travel video is too small a niche and probably because I didn&#8217;t work enough on the site and failed at building a community. And let&#8217;s not forget the  main reason: the damn users didn&#8217;t listen. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Stuart</title>
		<link>http://www.tnooz.com/2010/01/29/news/earth-org-stops-spinning-says-users-did-not-listen/#comment-6506</link>
		<dc:creator>Stuart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 02:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just rereading this and taking a closer look through the site, it could be that the press they&#039;ve had has brought them to spammers attention. A problem Otto alludes to in his blog post. 

Much of their Vietnam content is either blatant spam or sneaky spam -- if you&#039;ve doing a site on a worldwide basis, spam would be a major time sucker ... 

Still doesn&#039;t excuse the tone towards the site members -- perhaps a post made at the end of a bad hair day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just rereading this and taking a closer look through the site, it could be that the press they&#8217;ve had has brought them to spammers attention. A problem Otto alludes to in his blog post. </p>
<p>Much of their Vietnam content is either blatant spam or sneaky spam &#8212; if you&#8217;ve doing a site on a worldwide basis, spam would be a major time sucker &#8230; </p>
<p>Still doesn&#8217;t excuse the tone towards the site members &#8212; perhaps a post made at the end of a bad hair day.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian C</title>
		<link>http://www.tnooz.com/2010/01/29/news/earth-org-stops-spinning-says-users-did-not-listen/#comment-6489</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 00:28:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unbelievable comment to make about your users, that&#039;s all I can say!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unbelievable comment to make about your users, that&#8217;s all I can say!</p>
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		<title>By: Stuart</title>
		<link>http://www.tnooz.com/2010/01/29/news/earth-org-stops-spinning-says-users-did-not-listen/#comment-6479</link>
		<dc:creator>Stuart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 22:04:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a totally bizarre way to start the day. Stunt looking for funds? If so even more bizarre. Love the headline.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a totally bizarre way to start the day. Stunt looking for funds? If so even more bizarre. Love the headline.</p>
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		<title>By: name withheld</title>
		<link>http://www.tnooz.com/2010/01/29/news/earth-org-stops-spinning-says-users-did-not-listen/#comment-6473</link>
		<dc:creator>name withheld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 20:57:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;ve been following their development closely and am sure many of the contributors who worked 1000&#039;s of man hours free of charge will feel used.

i had applied to one of their paid positions and was told that i would be able to start out working as a volunteer at first, surely not the way to operate if you are looking for dedicated staff. if you are looking for interns, there are enough out there looking for an opportunity.

nevertheless, mathias and otto are creative guys that deserve a lot of credit for having started such an innovative approach. the idea itself will probably not cease operations and could develop in some way or the other.
i wish everyone involved all the best in the future!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;ve been following their development closely and am sure many of the contributors who worked 1000&#8242;s of man hours free of charge will feel used.</p>
<p>i had applied to one of their paid positions and was told that i would be able to start out working as a volunteer at first, surely not the way to operate if you are looking for dedicated staff. if you are looking for interns, there are enough out there looking for an opportunity.</p>
<p>nevertheless, mathias and otto are creative guys that deserve a lot of credit for having started such an innovative approach. the idea itself will probably not cease operations and could develop in some way or the other.<br />
i wish everyone involved all the best in the future!</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin May</title>
		<link>http://www.tnooz.com/2010/01/29/news/earth-org-stops-spinning-says-users-did-not-listen/#comment-6385</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin May</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 16:10:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Miramon:

Certainly a bizarre tactic, I agree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Miramon:</p>
<p>Certainly a bizarre tactic, I agree.</p>
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